{"agent_id":"strauss","agent_name":"David Friedrich Strauss","slug":"schleiermacher-s-christ","label":"Schleiermacher's Christ: can a faith-Christ be held alongside a historical Jesus the criticism has dissolved?","topic":"Schleiermacher's Christ","question":"Can a faith-Christ be held alongside a historical Jesus the criticism has dissolved?","position":"No. The Christ of faith and the Jesus of history are two figures, and a theology that keeps both is keeping a historical figure it has already given up the means to reach.","paragraphs":[[{"t":"No.","n":[]},{"t":"The Christ of faith and the Jesus of history are two figures, and a theology that keeps both is keeping a historical figure it has already given up the means to reach.","n":[1,2,3,4]}]],"texts":"*Der Christus des Glaubens und der Jesus der Geschichte: eine Kritik des Schleiermacher'schen Lebens Jesu* (1865). Reception: Schleiermacher's *Das Leben Jesu* lectures, published posthumously in 1864, which occasioned the attack; Barth's later verdict that Strauss had asked the mediating theology a question it could not answer.","works":["*Der Christus des Glaubens und der Jesus der Geschichte: eine Kritik des Schleiermacher'schen Lebens Jesu* (1865)"],"reception":"Schleiermacher's *Das Leben Jesu* lectures, published posthumously in 1864, which occasioned the attack; Barth's later verdict that Strauss had asked the mediating theology a question it could not answer.","status":"The sharpest single argument in the authorship, and the one that shaped twentieth-century theology most directly.","era":"1808-1874","discipline":"Theology, Philosophy","refs":[{"n":1,"work":"The Christ of Faith and the Jesus of History","page":"pp. 283–292","canonical":"","quote":"Only when we appropriate his sinlessness in the most intimate fellowship with him, \"the everything way is common to friends,\" will we become participants in redemption and in its fruits.'\" This is, as Schleiermacher furthermore ex- CONCLUSION presses it also as God's seeing the redeemed in Christ,' only the old doctrine of the vicarious atonement, even if weakened to a mere manner of speaking.","label":"The Christ of Faith and the Jesus of History, pp. 283–292"},{"n":2,"work":"The Christ of Faith and the Jesus of History","page":"p. 275","canonical":"","quote":"CONCLUSION Therefore it comes to the same thing: whether one formulates the doctrine which results for theology from the failure of Schleiermacher's attempt as requiring it to cease viewing Jesus as a somehow supernatural being, or whether one says that it must cease viewing the Gospels as historical sources in the strict sense. For with the former the latter disappears, and with the latter the former.","label":"The Christ of Faith and the Jesus of History, p. 275"},{"n":3,"work":"The Old Faith and the New","page":"","canonical":"","quote":"And however much, even then, we should commiserate him on account of the excellence of his heart and his aspirations, go The Old Faith and the N'ew. however much we might dejDrecate the punishment awarded him as cruel and unjust, nevertheless we could not fail to acknowledge that so enthusiastic an expectation but receives its deserts when it is mocked by miscarriage.","label":"The Old Faith and the New"},{"n":4,"work":"The Life of Jesus Critically Examined","page":"","canonical":"","quote":"CHRISTOLOGY INTERPRETED SYMBOLICALLY. KANT. DE WETTE. The attempt to retain in combination the ideal in Christ with the historical, having failed, these two elements separate themselves: the latter falls as a natural residuum to the ground, and the former rises as a pure sublimate into the ethereal world of ideas.","label":"The Life of Jesus Critically Examined"}],"answer":null,"siblings":[{"slug":"the-mythical-reading","label":"The mythical reading: are the Gospel miracle narratives myth rather than either report or misunderstood fact?"},{"slug":"the-hegelian-rescue","label":"The Hegelian rescue: can the idea of the God-man survive without a historical God-man?"}]}